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perelandra


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Top 10 Reasons Not To Get Kindle
Posted: Dec 19, 2009 10:52 PM
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10) One word: batteries!
9) If you fall asleep reading, your Kindle could break if it slipped out of your hands and fell on the floor.
8) Staring at a screen for too long is bad for your eyes.
7) The book cover artists would all lose their jobs.
6) A Kindle will never last as long as a well-made book. (Consider the average life of an iPod!)
5) A power surge or blackout would mess up your download.
4) You could lose your entire library if you lost your Kindle.
3) When you give one as a gift, where are you going to write the nice little note?
2) You could ruin it if you read in the tub.

...And the number one reason not to get Kindle:

1) No thief would steal that paper book you're carrying...but that Kindle? You bet!
Smiley1965


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Re: Top 10 Reasons Not To Get Kindle
Posted: Dec 21, 2009 10:06 AM   in response to: perelandra in response to: perelandra
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Amen sister! Give me a nice book in bed any time.
Shar M


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Re: Top 10 Reasons Not To Get Kindle
Posted: Dec 21, 2009 4:19 PM   in response to: Smiley1965 in response to: Smiley1965
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Me, too. I can't imagine that I would give up the joy of holding a book for a kindle. I even love the smell of bookstores.
Gramps


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Re: Top 10 Reasons Not To Get Kindle
Posted: Dec 21, 2009 6:17 PM   in response to: Shar M in response to: Shar M
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What people don't seem to know is that Apple can wipe out whatever book you downloaded. They have done it a couple of times when the owners to copyrights complain and win.

The French Courts just determined Google is criminally negligent in not obtaining copyright permission for their digital library. This sort of puts a bucket of cold water on electronic books for a while.
Shar M


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Re: Top 10 Reasons Not To Get Kindle
Posted: Dec 21, 2009 8:13 PM   in response to: Gramps in response to: Gramps
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Except they are still selling like crazy, at least in this country, and some of the best sellers are doing better in Kindle than in hard cover.
perelandra


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Re: Top 10 Reasons Not To Get Kindle
Posted: Dec 21, 2009 9:27 PM   in response to: Shar M in response to: Shar M
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Well, they've been predicting the end of the paper book for quite a while, but they're still around. Just because it's high-tech doesn't mean it's a good idea...remember LaserDiscs? And Betamax?
And I, too, love the smell of a good bookstore. Especially a second-hand one! :)
And Gramps, can the "server" really wipe something off an electronic reader? That sounds really Orwellian...Big Apple Is Watching You...(cue freaky theremin music)...
ssandy


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Re: Top 10 Reasons Not To Get Kindle
Posted: Dec 22, 2009 9:05 AM   in response to: perelandra in response to: perelandra
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11. Used books from Amazon are still cheaper and you can resell them, same as going to a used book store that allows trade ins. When are folks ever going to not consider "cheaper"?
Smiley1965


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Re: Top 10 Reasons Not To Get Kindle
Posted: Dec 22, 2009 11:55 AM   in response to: ssandy in response to: ssandy
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#11 amendment - add - or pass them on to your friends!
ssandy


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Re: Top 10 Reasons Not To Get Kindle
Posted: Dec 22, 2009 12:41 PM   in response to: Smiley1965 in response to: Smiley1965
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;) Amen, Smiley!

Shar...how does one check if they're from a smoking household or not???
Shar M


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Re: Top 10 Reasons Not To Get Kindle
Posted: Dec 22, 2009 2:06 PM   in response to: ssandy in response to: ssandy
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You ask the question before you bid on them. Some sellers will go so far as to say "non-smoking household" or "non-pet household" but this oen didn't and I didn't think to ask.

I had that happen last year when I ordered a Christmas wreath from the relative of a friend.; It, too, reeked of cigarette smoke and I put it outside for a long time before I could bring it in. When I opened the box this year, it still had a faint cigarette odor.

I used to smoke years ago, and had no idea how bad I or the house must have smelled to my friends.
Shar M


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Re: Top 10 Reasons Not To Get Kindle
Posted: Dec 22, 2009 12:07 PM   in response to: ssandy in response to: ssandy
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I order a lot of books from Amazon, and occasionally from ebay. The only mistake I made was one occasion when I bought a whole series from ebay and didn't think about checking to see if it was a smoking household. The books reeked of cigarette smoke when I received them. i set them in the outdoors for a long time and then put them away and I still haven't taken them out to see if they are readable. I've never made that mistake again.
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Re: Top 10 Reasons Not To Get Kindle
Posted: Feb 22, 2010 12:52 AM   in response to: ssandy in response to: ssandy
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How about a #12? There's an old Chinese proverb that was used to close a TV program (Unitarian, I think) back when I was a kid: "It is better to light one Kindle than to curse the darkness."

Well, at least I think that's what it said!!! :D

PP
Gramps


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Re: Top 10 Reasons Not To Get Kindle
Posted: Jan 3, 2010 9:10 PM   in response to: perelandra in response to: perelandra
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Remember the 1984 Apple commercial?
perelandra


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Re: Top 10 Reasons Not To Get Kindle
Posted: Jan 6, 2010 8:07 PM   in response to: Gramps in response to: Gramps
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Actually, Gramps, I don't. Let me see if it's on YouTube...

Yes, here it is...it only aired during the Super Bowl. No wonder I missed it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhsWzJo2sN4
PastorPaul


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Re: Top 10 Reasons Not To Get Kindle
Posted: Feb 20, 2010 4:53 PM   in response to: perelandra in response to: perelandra
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I have never even seen a Kindle, but have a friend who owns one. Her chief complaint is that the books are read by a computer voice, instead of an actual human voice like an audio book. That in itself would be enough for me to not want one. I'd sooner buy an audio book on CD, or download it to my MP3 player... assuming I can ever figure out how to use the one I bought for Christmas! :)

PP
Shar M


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Re: Top 10 Reasons Not To Get Kindle
Posted: Feb 20, 2010 5:20 PM   in response to: PastorPaul in response to: PastorPaul
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PP, the audio is only a secondary feature of the Kindle. The primary focus is being able to download books to read yourself at a lower cost than if you bought the book itself. It's not my cup of tea but the friends I know who have them like it. One gets several daily newspapers which she would not ordinarily subscribe to. And if you're in the car, etc. and want to continue what you were reading, you just switch it to audio.
PastorPaul


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Re: Top 10 Reasons Not To Get Kindle
Posted: Feb 20, 2010 5:29 PM   in response to: Shar M in response to: Shar M
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Shar,

That shows you how much I don't know about Kindles. I'm still old fashioned and like to have that paper in my hands. When that's not possible, I like to listen. That said... I have a bunch of books still waiting to be read and a handful of audio books I haven't listened to. Anymore, most of my driving is done listening to the fully dramatized versions of the NIV Audio Bible. I love the dramatization, but have nearly pulled over because of strange sounds from the car. Funny how the car noises stopped the minute I turned off the tape player so I could get a better listen. :D

PP
Shar M


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Re: Top 10 Reasons Not To Get Kindle
Posted: Feb 20, 2010 6:34 PM   in response to: PastorPaul in response to: PastorPaul
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I'm with you, PP. I love the feel of books, the smell of a new book, everything about them. The piles of books I have stashed around the house waiting to be read is legendery -- and a joke to anybody who knows me. If they only knew about the stacks I have hidden, it would be even worse. The only advantage I can see is perhaps finishing a book a little quicker if you can read it and then take it in the car and switch it to audio. But the computer voice would bother me as well. My favorite audio books are those that are well read.

I am currently listening to a mystery by Harlan Coben and the author himself is reading it. Booorrring! He should never be allowed to reach his own work. His accent is distracting; he reads too fast and has absolutely no inflection in his voice so that at times it's difficult to tell which character is speaking. I won't pick up any more of his audio books if he's reading them.
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Re: Top 10 Reasons Not To Get Kindle
Posted: Aug 10, 2010 7:36 PM   in response to: perelandra in response to: perelandra
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Did anyone see the story that Amazon is now selling more books via Kindle than hardcover as of June?

Looks like a bunch of us are going the way of the dinosaur.
Shar M


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Re: Top 10 Reasons Not To Get Kindle
Posted: Aug 10, 2010 8:22 PM   in response to: Gramps in response to: Gramps
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I think there may be one in my Christmas stocking. #1 son keeps asking me if I'd like one.
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Re: Top 10 Reasons Not To Get Kindle
Posted: Aug 10, 2010 10:17 PM   in response to: Gramps in response to: Gramps
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Gramps wrote:
Did anyone see the story that Amazon is now selling more books via Kindle than hardcover as of June?

Looks like a bunch of us are going the way of the dinosaur.


Sorry, but I won't be convinced of my obsolescence as a reader until that sales trend has continued for at least a couple of years.
And anyway, if paper books are phased out, that will only make my library more valuable! :)
Shar M


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Re: Top 10 Reasons Not To Get Kindle
Posted: Aug 11, 2010 11:06 AM   in response to: perelandra in response to: perelandra
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Pere, the people at my library tell me that books in the library will eventually be phased out and everything will be electronic. There are already some high school libraries that have no books, or so they tell me at the library. It will be a sad day, to my way of thinking. How will you ever have a book signing? And the books we currently have will become particularly valuable.
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Re: Top 10 Reasons Not To Get Kindle
Posted: Aug 11, 2010 8:26 AM   in response to: perelandra in response to: perelandra
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Hey guys - I like mine. I don't have to carry a stack of books on vacation. And it is easier to hold for reading in bed. And there are lots of free books out there, too.
Gramps


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Posted: Aug 11, 2010 7:33 PM   in response to: ksgeld in response to: ksgeld
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Welcome ksgeld. You have to understand, most of us here are "old folgies," i.e. over 40 (some of us way over 40).

In truth I have read several books electronically now, usually via laptop screen. I understand later this year some ebook readers will be as inexpensive as $99. Maybe I will ask for one from Santa this Christmas.
Smiley1965


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Posted: Aug 12, 2010 5:31 AM   in response to: Gramps in response to: Gramps
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Speak for yourself Gramps; this forty something gal is NOT an old fogie! Welcome ksgeld! I can't imagine I'll prefer an electronic book over the real thing, but you never know. If I had one of those thingys, I'd fall asleep in bed reading like I always do and it would be lying on my chest and overheat and catch on fire or give me a blood clot or a heart attack or something :)
Shar M


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Re: Top 10 Reasons Not To Get Kindle
Posted: Aug 12, 2010 8:22 AM   in response to: Smiley1965 in response to: Smiley1965
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Well, I am an old fogie, but I can see some advantages to the kindle, at least some of the time. Like: You don't have to take a jillion books on vacation. Like: You can read in the car in the dark. Like: a gal at our book club had the book downloaded while we were still discussing it. Like: I could take it in the car with me and just switch it to audio, thus not having to stop reading for any reason whatsoever. Like: my hubby would quit complaining about the gazillion piles of books I have laying around. Maybe.

I don't think anything will ever replace the joy of turning the pages of a book for me, but there are times when I think I would definitely use a Kindle.
Smiley1965


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Re: Top 10 Reasons Not To Get Kindle
Posted: Aug 12, 2010 9:35 AM   in response to: Shar M in response to: Shar M
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Hmmm Shar, some of those are great reasons! Maybe I DO need one!
Gramps


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Re: Top 10 Reasons Not To Get Kindle
Posted: Aug 15, 2010 5:14 PM   in response to: Smiley1965 in response to: Smiley1965
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It's a matter of perspective, that is true, Smiles
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Re: Top 10 Reasons Not To Get Kindle
Posted: Jan 11, 2011 4:25 AM   in response to: ksgeld in response to: ksgeld
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Actually, Kindles an iPads are great for us physicians. I can carry an entire medical reference library and continuing education material that would otherwise fill several book cases in one hand. Very handy as a work tool.
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Posted: Jan 11, 2011 10:39 AM   in response to: ksgeld in response to: ksgeld
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AGREE WITH YOU!!

my sweetie got me a kindle for Christmas. did i really want this thing? my new years resolution in 2010 was to spend less money on books and use the library more. i did and now he got me this kindle.

I LOVE IT!

i find it really easy to read - i think i have read 5 books since Christmas - most were free - and i have charged the battery once since the initial one.

i have bought two books and subscribed to an email list that tells the free ones for the day. just the other day they announced that amazon now has some kind of agreement where you can share some of the books with friends. have not looked into it yet.

when i go to the library i check out my favorite authors first - and then usually pick books for the pretty cover. usually they are the ones that get your attention. the covers in kindle are black and white.

i have gotten 8 free books, read three already - i probably would not have picked these books at the library - but have enjoyed everyone of them. being snowed in in arkansas these past three days helped!

it has been wonderful since i am traveling - don't have to worry bout what to do with the books - and i can see i will need less storage at home - gave 14 boxes of books to a church book sale couple years ago.

i thought i would miss holding the book - there is just something about having a book in your hands. my husband picked out a cover with reading light - never used the light - but the cover opens and it holds just like a book.

i like my kindle - except it might be dicey in the tub -

ah, reading!
Shar M


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Posted: Jan 11, 2011 6:14 PM   in response to: wanderer in response to: wanderer
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Wanderer, it has been my experience that I am reading more, also. I think it may be because I have the print slightly larger than I would in a regular book and it just seems to read faster. I also have the cover so it gives you the feeling of holding a book, although I prefer the cover off when I'm reading in back. I have a light and only used it recently when we were returning home after dark and it allowed me to read in the car. I also check the free books every week. I am still reading some of my stash at home but haven't bought any books since I got my Nook several months ago.

Glad you are enjoying yours. I also tell myself I am saving trees.
Shar M


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Posted: Jan 14, 2011 8:21 AM   in response to: wanderer in response to: wanderer
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Wanderer, don't forget to check for free books. I don't know about Kindle but Barnes and Noble offers a different free book (usually a current book) every Friday. I imagine Amazon does something similar. To search for free books, go to your search screen and type in 0.00. You'll come up with lots of freebies, some of which are pretty good.
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Posted: Jan 16, 2011 11:04 AM   in response to: Shar M in response to: Shar M
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there are a good number of free books for the kindle at various sites. classics etc. But i did the Jane Austin thing years and years ago as a young girl

but i found a mailing list that sends out a daily email about what is free today - usually they are only free for a couple of days - but i have read a couple of good books that way - books i probably would not have gotten otherwise.

pleased with it so far - except for when we were at a state park way out in the boonies with no internet and i was out of books. OH NO!!
Shar M


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Posted: Jan 16, 2011 12:53 PM   in response to: wanderer in response to: wanderer
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I bet you won't let that happen again. Download a bunch of those freebies. I think I have about 20 on mine so they will keep me going for awhile.
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Posted: Jan 16, 2011 2:40 PM   in response to: Shar M in response to: Shar M
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that's for sure.

we have internet for the next month - so i hope to have a nice selection before we leave here.

am pretty good about not having email - but geez- no books? yikes.
Shar M


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Posted: Jan 16, 2011 3:12 PM   in response to: wanderer in response to: wanderer
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I'm with you on that one.
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Re: Top 10 Reasons Not To Get Kindle
Posted: Aug 13, 2010 8:32 AM   in response to: perelandra in response to: perelandra
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I considered a Kindle, but then found out about the options available through Barnes and Noble. B&N has a FREE e-reader that you can download to any PC and most smart phones. The cost of the electronic books is about the same as those you'd buy through Amazon (Kindle is only compatible with Amazon). B&N also has a unique feature that allows you to share a book you purchased with others.

I've read several books on my PC and although the screen on my smart phone is pretty small for reading, it does beat carrying around several heavy books when I travel. I've found the B&N option very workable, without having to make the investment in a reader, such as the Kindle.

For anyone who may still what a separate reader, in addition to the Kindle, B&N has the Nook and Sony also offers a reader, but I think the selection of books for the Sony is a bit more limited.
Shar M


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Posted: Aug 13, 2010 2:55 PM   in response to: Diamond in response to: Diamond
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Actually, the Nook is the one I prefer. My son-in-law has an I-Phone and he reads books over it all the time. I think I would like something a little larger, and I have no desire to sit in front of the computer and read a book. I'd rather be in my favorite arm chair and my lap top would be way less comfortable than a book.
Shar M


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Posted: Sep 25, 2010 9:37 PM   in response to: Shar M in response to: Shar M
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Okay, today #1 son came up from Orlando and took me to Barnes and Noble where he purchased my Christmas present three months early, the Nook, the B & N version of the Kindle. I got it home, set up my account with B & N, connected through my wireless connection and downloaded my first book. I think I am going to love it.

As much as I love books, son and I both admit that we are "gadget" people and if you like gadgets, you''ll love the e-book. I'll keep you posted on how I like it.
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Posted: Oct 4, 2010 9:58 AM   in response to: Shar M in response to: Shar M
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Okay, I've had it for over a week and I have to admit that I just loooove it. It seems that I read much faster. I finished my first book in about two and a half days. I am reading one ebook and then one of the books on my shelf to try and reduce some of the backlog, but am finding I would prefer to read the ebook. It will be a long and happy marriage. The brand I have is the Nook from Barnes and Noble. A friend just won a Kindle this weekend so I'm anxious to see if she likes her Kindle as much as I like my Nook.
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Posted: Oct 5, 2010 6:19 PM   in response to: perelandra in response to: perelandra
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why you should buy kindle"

10. Battery included is rechargable and last 3 weeks+ on one charge and the battery last a long time.
9. Durable--haven't damaged it if it drops-- you keep it in a padded cover.
8. Screen--like looking at a book page--it's not a compter screen--no glare.
7. Better made than any well made book today--I work in library and we're lucky if a new hardcover book last a month without needing repair. I have yet to repair my kindle.
6. Download is not lost, as it's done through wi-fi. No chance of power surges.
5. Library won't be lost as it's also stored in your account on Amazon--so even if it's not on the kindle it's in your account.
4. Can include note if give as gift--kindle allows high lighting and writing notes.
3. You can damage "paper" books if read in tub--ask all the people who pay to replace them at the library.
2. Steal--people steal real books too! Ask the local library!
1. Best-- easier to carry 10 books on one kindle then actually carry 10 books. Packs easier too.
Shar M


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Posted: Oct 5, 2010 8:34 PM   in response to: OnlyJo in response to: OnlyJo
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I agree, Jo. When they first came out, I was certain I didn't want one. Now I have one and I love it. I can only say to the scoffers, Don't knock it until you've tried it.
WELSie

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Posted: Oct 21, 2010 6:32 PM   in response to: Shar M in response to: Shar M
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Shar, Can you get newspapers and magazines on the Nook? I'm thinking specifically of European ones that are hard to get in the US.
Shar M


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Posted: Oct 21, 2010 8:32 PM   in response to: WELSie in response to: WELSie
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You certainly can. Most newspapers are available but not all magazines yet. I think eventually they all will be. I went to a class at Barnes & Noble, where my son bought it, recently and learned all kinds of things I can do with it. I can actually download audio books and play those, and I understand most library web sites have ebooks that you can borrow and download free. I have had it close to a month and have read four books on it. I LOVE it.

Thank you, #1 son, for such a cool gift.

Okay, today I learned something really cool I can do with my Nook. I don't think Kindle has this same feature. I can go to a library web site who has ebooks and audio books and borrow and download them to my computer and then transfer them to my Nook. This way you can read some of the things you want without having to pay for them, although you do not get to keep them or lend them as you would if you had paid for the book. This program is so cool that when the lending period is up, the title disappears form your computer. What a great thing for shut-ins who can't get out to be able to download books to their computer. A city about an hour from me has a major university and, of course, a great library. I was able to get an e-card on line to download audio and ebooks. I've been playing with that for the last couple of hours. What fun!

Edited by: Shar M on Oct 24, 2010 4:15 PM
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Posted: Oct 25, 2010 6:14 PM   in response to: Shar M in response to: Shar M
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I've actually thought from the beginning that I would like to have a book reader (it would sure solve the problem of living in 900 square feet of space and wanting every book I see), then I remembered one thing about my reading habits that would make it incredibly impractical. I'm usually reading 3 or 4 books at a time, leaving one in the car, one at work, one on my headboard, and one on the end table in the livingroom. It keeps me from being without a book whenever I have a few minutes. I'm certain that if I carried a book reader with me to all those places, my feeble mind would allow it to be left behind and gone forever!
Glad you are all enjoying yours! Reading is a joy!
Shar M


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Posted: Oct 25, 2010 9:15 PM   in response to: mychalkam in response to: mychalkam
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I discovered another great use for it today. It works great on the treadmill at the Y and the print can be enlarged so that it's really easy to see, even at a distance.

Reading multiple books on the Nook is easy. And it fits easily in my purse. But I think not finding space for a huge quantity of books is what sold me on it in the beginning. I have a few favorite reads that I will never part with but the clutter is starting to disappear. Well, a little bit. It will take me years to finish reading all of the books I have stashed away.
WELSie

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Posted: Nov 6, 2010 4:08 PM   in response to: Shar M in response to: Shar M
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I checked it out at B & N today, no European newspapers or magazines yet, except for the International Herald Tribune. Kindle does have some. I asked the person who showed me the Nook why I should buy it rather than the Kindle. She pointed out that you have to mail the Kindle in for service, but not the Nook. I've seen Kindles advertized at my local Staples (maybe Target, too?), so I'm not sure if that's true or not. I'm still shopping around.
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Posted: Nov 7, 2010 8:33 AM   in response to: WELSie in response to: WELSie
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I will give you a couple of other reasons. You can download audio books on the Nook and not on the Kindle. You can loan books to friends and have them loaned to you on the Nook. You can go into any Barnes and Noble store and read any book for free. With the Nook, you can also download free ebooks from libraries, etc. I don't know if Kindle has that feature or not. I researched both ebooks and decided I preferred the Nook. Also, Barnes and Noble has various Nook groups that meet which is where I learned a lot of things I could do with the Nook that weren't shown in the instructions. I've had it for about six weeks now and I just love it. And I've read way more books that I would normally during that period of time.

I know that both Target and Staples are now carrying Kindle but whether they can help with repairs or not, I can't say. I do know that I went into Target to look at the Kindle and could not find anyone to tell me much of anything about it. I think either one is a good investment and you will enjoy it.
WELSie

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Posted: Nov 7, 2010 6:16 PM   in response to: Shar M in response to: Shar M
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Thanks for the info. I'm going to wait and see. I'm sure the Nook will get European newspapers and magazines eventually, and maybe by that time, it will be even cheaper!

I looked at the $199 version yesterday. It seemed like it would be the better choice, since you don't need wifi to download your reading materials. Do you have an opinion on that?
Shar M


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Posted: Nov 7, 2010 6:48 PM   in response to: WELSie in response to: WELSie
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It depends on whether you have a wireless connection in your house or not. I do so I got the wi-fi version rather than the 3G. I figured most places that I would be traveling -- hotels, airports, etc. -- have a wireless connection, and I didn't see that I would every be downloading something at the beach. I figured I would most likely be planning ahead if I were traveling and download books ahead of time. In the event I were to run out of reading material, it's not that difficult to find a wireless connection now days. Even McDonalds have them.

That has proven to be true. I already have a half dozen books downloaded that I haven't read yet. One thing I learned in the class I took at Barnes and Noble is that every week they offer a free e-book. I think I've only passed that up once as something I probably wouldn't be interested in reading.

If you do not have a wireless connection at your home, then you would probably want to go with the more expensive 3G model. Since my son was buying it for me, I thought the wi-fi would work just fine, and it has proven true.
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Posted: Nov 12, 2010 3:23 PM   in response to: Shar M in response to: Shar M
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OK, I probably should know this, but I don't. I have DSL, and there is a modem with a phone cable going into it. On the other hand, I also have a wireless router and can access the internet from a laptop anywhere in the house. So, does that mean I could go with the cheaper Nook?
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Posted: Nov 12, 2010 8:22 PM   in response to: WELSie in response to: WELSie
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Yes, Ma'am, it does. You will need to know your password the first time you connect and then after that, it will connect automatically. I went with the cheaper one because I felt like there are a lot of places that are now wireless, and I didn't feel like I would be trying to download books from the beach, etc. I can even access from McDonalds and any coffee shop.
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Posted: Jan 10, 2011 2:04 PM   in response to: Shar M in response to: Shar M
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Shar,

So what are you exactly telling me here? That Kindle is WI-FI capable?

I use WI-FI a lot with my HP Laptop at various places but I didn't know anything about the Kindle being capable of this.

My Sunday School Teacher loves his Kindle, he already has 103 books on it and he said that between the IPAD and Kindle that the Kindle has better resolution and after looking at both of them I would agree.

I tend to be very Old School so I still like the Good Ole' Fashion Book the best but if Kindle's get way down in price, who knows, I would probably buy one.
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Posted: Jan 10, 2011 6:32 PM   in response to: pancakemotor in response to: pancakemotor
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The Kindle and the Nook (from Barnes & Noble) are both wi-fi capable. You can read them anywhere but you can purchase and download materials anywhere there is a wi-fi connection. Both the Kindle and the Nook make a 3G version but it is obviously more expensive.

Although I love books, I also love my Nook. And think of all the trees I'm saving.
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Posted: Jan 10, 2011 8:25 PM   in response to: Shar M in response to: Shar M
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OK now I've never heard of a Nook, who makes The Nook?

I will wait and see if the Kindle gets down to like 80 bucks and IF it does, then I'll buy.
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Posted: Jan 11, 2011 7:57 AM   in response to: pancakemotor in response to: pancakemotor
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Nook is carried by Barnes and Noble and Books A Million. I actually like it better than Kindle because it has a feature where you can lend books you have downloaded to someone else. I imagine Kindle will adopt this feature in their next models. Nook also has a color version but I don't see that as being necessary unless you subscribe to a lot of magazines and I understand it doesn't do as well in sunlight as it has a different screen.
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Posted: Jan 11, 2011 8:24 AM   in response to: Shar M in response to: Shar M
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I will definately check out This Nook and compare it to the Kindle, I know I don't like the IPAD because I don't care to do business with Apple since they donated so much money to try to defeat Prop 8 out in Cali. and of course the resolution and/or the clarity doesn't seem to be tops on the IPAD either.

I was wondering if there was a way to make my Laptop Computer (HP) to have Black and White instead of color, I understand that the radiation is less and/or easier on the eyes when it's in Black and White instead of color, you know sometimes old school is still the best way to go, I still remember the old monochrome monitors.

I am also going to investigate using the Kindle or Nook for Choir on Sunday Mornings, recently I joined the Choir at my Church and we sit in the front of the church facing the people instead of the balcony and I like it sitting up front and besides, you can see if anyone is nodding off or not. When I was singing in the choir for Christmas Eve Services and it came to Silent Night and everyone had a candle lit, there was a person up in the Balcony that accidently dropped their lit candle over the railing and luckily the distance it traveled the flame went out on the way down but it did look like a shooting star from where I was sitting because our balcony is up high so I feel that it was God giving us in the choir the gift of a shooting star right there in God's House that night....;) lol

Now about this thing with using it for Choir, let me see where was I with this, oh yeah, I am going to investigate and see if one could hook it into the video wirelessly because as a person in the choir, the monitors in the back are just too small to read and they (our church) doesn't always provide us with everything the congregation gets and they also sometimes get the music wrong! yep, there has been a few times that we as the choir were given a different version to sing and then people in the choir get irrate but I tell them to just keep on singing the version that we were given and sing it loudly because it will be the best way to draw attention to it so that they don't give us the wrong version to sing again.

I might need some kind of other device to go inbetween the Kindle/Nook in order to hook up a straight video feed, I don't know and then of course there is the cost of getting one for each one in the choir, not many people show up for choir so it shouldn't really be all that big of a deal.

-pm-
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Posted: Jan 12, 2011 7:10 PM   in response to: pancakemotor in response to: pancakemotor
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Frankly, PC, the Kindle can't do the kinds of things you are looking for. You can download books on it and at least on the Nook, you can also download compact discs. But there's no way it would hook into the video monitor. It's not a television.

I'm not sure I understand why the choir doesn't just get a bulletin so you can follow the service and sing the hymns either out of the bulletin or the hymnal.
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Posted: Jan 13, 2011 4:53 PM   in response to: Shar M in response to: Shar M
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There is supposedly a device that I've found made by Warpia where you can hook your Kindle to a projector or a TV wirelessly via USB, I am now looking at this device to hook into the one of the projectors right above my head for when I sing in the Chior and this way we in the Choir could view everything Via our Kindle and view what the congregation is seeing, I will soon be talking to my Pastor about this.
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Posted: Jan 13, 2011 5:42 PM   in response to: pancakemotor in response to: pancakemotor
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Posted: Jan 13, 2011 8:06 PM   in response to: pancakemotor in response to: pancakemotor
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Warpia Wireless USB PC to TV/Projector Display Adapter Kit (Audio through Computer)

I don't see how this would work. It looks like it works from a PC to a TV or projector. Better find out for sure before you make the investment.
pancakemotor

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Posted: Jan 13, 2011 8:34 PM   in response to: Shar M in response to: Shar M
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I just wrote the Warpia Technical people and asked them if it would work, I put the whole scenario together about exactly what I wanted to do which would be to hook the Kindle Wirelessly to one of the Projecter's which while singing in the Choir is right above my head so we shall see what they answer with.
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Posted: Jan 14, 2011 8:19 AM   in response to: pancakemotor in response to: pancakemotor
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PC, it would probably be cheaper to relocate the projector than to buy Kindles for everyone in the choir.
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Posted: Jan 14, 2011 1:28 PM   in response to: Shar M in response to: Shar M
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Shar,

I've been down every other road and they are not going to relocate the projector because they have two of them but they shine out to the audience and are in the back of the big screen and we in the Choir sit under the Big Screen but if you look upwards it's the back of the big screen so all the words are backwards so it's a little hard to figure out what everything is.

Now, we do have this very nice gentleman in our Choir who's done very well in life financially and has offered to pay for new monitors that we could see where we sit in the Choir but the current monitor's are just too small to read so he's offered to buy much bigger ones and he would pay for the whole thing but our Choir Director as flatly told him no so now THE ONLY OPTION LEFT is to hook it wirelessly into a Kindle or something like it.

-pm-
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Posted: Jan 14, 2011 1:47 PM   in response to: pancakemotor in response to: pancakemotor
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Another really cool invention is Choir Folders. You get black folders for everyone in choir, everyone puts their music in it where they can hold it and see it while they are singing, and then everyone sings. It's really cool! We use them all the time.
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Posted: Jan 14, 2011 2:27 PM   in response to: pancakemotor in response to: pancakemotor
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It won't work, they don't have the software for the Kindle, they just have it for mac and windows related stuff.
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Posted: Jan 14, 2011 3:11 PM   in response to: pancakemotor in response to: pancakemotor
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I didn't figure it would work. I'll second Smiley's suggestions. Try using the bulletin, a choir folder and/or the hymnal. I'm not sure just what it is that you're not able to see.
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Posted: Jan 11, 2011 6:22 PM   in response to: perelandra in response to: perelandra
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Pere, I was reading through some of your initial objections to the Kindle and now that I've had an ebook for awhile, I wanted to respond to your objections.

10. They are rechargable. I doubt you'd ever have to buy a new battery.
9. They are pretty sturdy and I think it would take a lot more than a drop on the floor to damage it.
8. This is an LED screen and it's very easy on the eyes. I think actually easier than staring at a book.
7. When you download the book, it actually downloads the cover as well.
6. Don't know about the life, but consider that you're using it daily rather than just reading it and putting it on a bookcase somewhere. Also, when they improve the product, you simply download it. You don't need to buy a new one.
5.A power surge or blackout has absolutely no effect on your ebook. It's not plugged into anything.
4.If you lose it, all of the books you have purhcased are stored on your computer as well as stored at Barnes & Noble (if you have a Nook, and I imagine Amazon has something similar for Kindle) so you haven't lost anything.
3.You just have to include a card with it.
2.Not sure about the tub part, but then I shower anyway.
1. Can't disagree about the theft part but I guard mine carefully. And with the cover, they don't realize that I'm not reading a book.

Plus, think of the trees I'm saving.

Looking back at the original post, I was one of the first to say I wouldn't like one.

Edited by: Shar M on Jan 11, 2011 7:23 PM
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I am now looking at The Sony Reader, I have an e-mail into Warpia again asking about the software on this device and I'm convinced that it will work with a projector wirelessly as what I've desired, I should find out tomorrow from Warpia, The Sony Reader is a bit more pricey then the Kindle at 179.00
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Posted: Jan 17, 2011 8:21 AM   in response to: pancakemotor in response to: pancakemotor
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It also doesn't have all of the features of the Nook or Kindle. PC, I don't think you're going to find an ereader that does what you are looking for. Perhaps the I-book, that is more of a multi media device, but it's also really pricy.
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Posted: Jan 21, 2011 12:32 PM   in response to: Shar M in response to: Shar M
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I checked The I-Book and nope, it's not going to work and besides, I wouldn't do business with the Apple Company anyway, not after their attitude concerning The Manhattan Declaration and not allowing their App on their phones anymore.

I think this whole thing is much simpler than it looks, I just need to see if they are already using a wireless system to shoot the signal into the projectors at the front of the church, I'm positive they are and then it's going to be if I can hook into that, I'm thinking now it could be as simple as buying a small HDTV like a 7 inch Haier portable for only 50 bucks and then simply Velcro it to the inside of a thicker black notebook.

Now, if I have to get another wireless system to shoot into my small HD portable Haier TV then it shouldn't be a problem hooking it into the computer through USB, I was hoping though to hook it into the Projector right above my head since it would be so much closer but whatever works is the most important here.

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Posted: Jan 21, 2011 5:53 PM   in response to: pancakemotor in response to: pancakemotor
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I told you you're expecting it to do something it wasn't built to do.

But, good grief! What is it and how much is it that you're not seeing that you would go to all of that difficulty? Are others having the same problem you are? It sure seems like there must be an easier way to solve the problem.
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Posted: Jan 26, 2011 10:13 AM   in response to: Shar M in response to: Shar M
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There has got to be a way to do this that is streamline with all the new gadgetry out there, it shouldn't be hard to put a wireless transmitter of some kind on the back of the projector, I would probably have to get a splitter so that one HDMI signal goes into the transmitter I hook up while the other one goes to the projector but this would be the best place for it because it's literally above our heads and just over about 7 feet, see, many of these devices that one can hook up wirelessly go on the computer and transmit from a USB port but they only have a 30 foot range and there is more than 30 feet from where we're sitting in the Choir to the computer in the back where everything is controlled from, therefore getting a gadget like a Video Player or something that can take stuff in wirelessly that is a small monitor of some kind that we could velco to the back of the inside of our Black Choir Notebooks IS the answer, I'm going to go and talk with the folks at Frye's Electronics today, good grief, there has got to be something and I do realize that an E-Book reader is not going to work but like I mentioned, there is so much new technology always rolling out and who knows, I'm sure that one of these days someone is going to figure out a way to convert HDMI to the E-Book language of communication when dealing with wireless video streaming.
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Posted: Jan 26, 2011 4:34 PM   in response to: pancakemotor in response to: pancakemotor
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PC, please answer my earlier question.
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Posted: Jan 26, 2011 4:55 PM   in response to: Shar M in response to: Shar M
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No, there is not an easier solution COZ I've already been down all those avenue's dear.
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Posted: Jan 26, 2011 5:37 PM   in response to: pancakemotor in response to: pancakemotor
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This was my earlier question:

What is it and how much is it that you're not seeing that you would go to all of that difficulty? Are others having the same problem you are? It sure seems like there must be an easier way to solve the problem.

Are the other choir members as troubled about it as you are? Is it really that big a problem?

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Posted: Jan 26, 2011 8:41 PM   in response to: Shar M in response to: Shar M
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Yes it is, none of us can see the small sized monitor's hanging on the back wall of the church, sure we can see the monitor's but the words that are put on it are too small, it's not the size of the letters, it's the size of the monitors and one person in the Choir has already offered to have them replaced with bigger ones and he would pay for them, installation and everything and he told me that he was told NO by the Choir Director which is in charge so we have to now go to other options and believe me, it will be done, we will find something and soon. Now what about them printing up everything? They have done this but don't often connect everything and several times the music they gave us was a different version then what the congregation was singing and we would find out halfway through the song and then we would have to stand there and look like idiots because we couldn't make out what was on the small monitor's in the back, now I've been through insanity like this before and I will find an option, actually I enjoy a challenge like this because I'm a guy and remember guy's LOVE to fix problems....:)
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Posted: Jan 26, 2011 9:35 PM   in response to: pancakemotor in response to: pancakemotor
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I guess I would refrain from singing. If they want you to sing bad enough, they'll make it possible for you to see the words.

Just another reason why I hope my congregation continues printing a bulletin and using the hymnal and NEVER goes to projecting the service on a screen.
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Posted: Jan 27, 2011 8:47 AM   in response to: Shar M in response to: Shar M
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Shar,

They only screw up with the wrong version of music every now and then, I told the rest of the Choir that next time they give us the wrong version and we happen to find out in the middle of the song to just sing it extra loud and this way the Choir Director will be thinking ya' know, I'd better make sure they get the right version from now on, LOL.

Actually it would be nice if the Choir Director from my church actually see's this message and beats me to the punch, yep, in other words, he goes back to the gentleman in the Choir who offered to pay for the bigger monitor's for the back and actually does it, he has them installed but either way, the problem will get solved one way or another.
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Posted: Jan 27, 2011 9:54 AM   in response to: pancakemotor in response to: pancakemotor
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Have you thought about presenting your concerns/needs to the Church Council?
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Posted: Jan 27, 2011 11:28 AM   in response to: ssandy in response to: ssandy
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