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Gramps


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My Winter Project
Posted: Oct 24, 2011 10:23 PM
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Got back from Lutherhaven, Couer d' Alene, this evening. Will be going up there at least once a month to help restore an 1890 Conestoga Wagon. We will be making it into a chuck wagon to use at a ranch program Lutherhaven sponsors. Today we removed the box from the frame and started sanding down the frame and wheels, After about an hour of breaking the dust, I thought to ask the boss if we were possibly removing lead paint. He didn't know :( . We will rebuild the box over the winter.

I will have to take a camera to record our progress---didn't think to take it today because I did not know what we would be working on.

We were interested in all the blacksmithing of the metal hardware on the frame. All of it made by hand.

Thank God we are using power tools to sand it down and plane the new wood we will be using to rebuild the box.
dakota rose 1


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Re: My Winter Project
Posted: Oct 26, 2011 12:49 PM   in response to: Gramps in response to: Gramps
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Sounds like a great winter project.

Looks like my winter project will be putting together my family tree book to get it ready to give to my sons. It has been an interesting program so far and have discovered that I am related to a lot of famous people and a few ancient kings and queens...ancient as in before the 1200's. And...I have just started as it is mainly from my mom's side of the family.

Then on to my dad's side of the family who mostly came from Switzerland and Germany. Yes...I have checked out this site to no avail as well as the Ancestry.com site. Will go to the Mormon satellite site here later so I can research the international data. They have a lot from England and Ireland, but not much from some of the other countries unless we pay for it.

God bless all
wanderer


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Re: My Winter Project
Posted: Oct 26, 2011 2:35 PM   in response to: dakota rose 1 in response to: dakota rose 1
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when you go to the family search site - make sure they are actual records and not the ancestral file - patron submissions. some of those submissions are most interesting and long way from correct.

fun hobby.
Grumpy


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Re: My Winter Project
Posted: Oct 26, 2011 9:21 PM   in response to: Gramps in response to: Gramps
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I have a 95 Monte Carlo to paint and a Lapstrake canoe to build. The garage is getting cleaned out. Yard sale this weekend. Lots of old teacher stuff hitting the sale.
Grumpy


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Re: My Winter Project
Posted: Oct 27, 2011 6:20 AM   in response to: Gramps in response to: Gramps
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You know you can buy lead paint test kits cheaply. Most of the proceedures call for dust masks, paper suits, gloves, respirators, dust collection and disposal in certified land fill. Likely the city dump. All that PPE is getting cheaper.
Smiley1965


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Re: My Winter Project
Posted: Oct 27, 2011 8:21 AM   in response to: Grumpy in response to: Grumpy
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I bought a thingy that will let me copy my VHS tapes to the computer, then put on a DVD. I need to figure out how it works; hate messing with that sort of thing. But I want to get all of our home movies put on DVD. I have one that my mom had had made from her 8mm movies, to VHS. And I have a dozen or so of my kids growing up. I still have my dinosaur camcorder that uses full size VHS tapes. I bought it for about $800 when my son was born. The kids used it a lot when their friends were over for sleepovers. They would film each other doing news shows and music videos; it was always hilarious. Can't wait to get them transferred. Sounds like a good winter thing to do. And watch movies. And scrapbook. And sleep.
mychalkam


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Re: My Winter Project
Posted: Oct 27, 2011 12:23 PM   in response to: Gramps in response to: Gramps
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Looks like I will be going through all my books, keepsakes, and household goods and deciding what to sell or give away. With hubby not able to find a job and unemployment ending after Christmas, we will have no choice but hand over the keys to our house. On my salary, we can afford only a small, maybe one bedroom apartment, so even though we're moving from only 900 sq feet, we will still need to let a lot of things go. This will be quite a chore as I think all my books are important. I'm one of those people who hears or thinks of a question and I have to know the answer NOW. I like having a lot of reference books around, especially my old theology and psychology textbooks. I also material for projects my work schedule and my health has left me unable to complete, so the church quilters will have some new stuff to work with. Don't have any idea about hubby's tools. Since he's not working, he has time to take on some projects for others but, without a garage, he may have to take his tools over to our son's in Bend.
Anyway, I'm certain that all this packing, deciding, and shedding will be all the winter project I can handle, though I'd like to get a few gifts I have patterns for hammered out on the sewing machine in there somewhere. I have one of some very fancy Christmas stockings and one for fancy hangers. They would each be a one-day project so I might find a spot here or there to get them done.
Shar M


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Re: My Winter Project
Posted: Oct 27, 2011 12:34 PM   in response to: mychalkam in response to: mychalkam
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Oh, Chalkie, don't give up hope. There is still time for something to turn up. You are in my prayers.
Don the Norski


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Re: My Winter Project
Posted: Oct 31, 2011 12:23 AM   in response to: mychalkam in response to: mychalkam
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Yup, Chalkie... ditto what Shar said. Meri and I are praying for you both!
mychalkam


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Posted: Oct 31, 2011 12:57 PM   in response to: Don the Norski in response to: Don the Norski
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Thank you both very much. We can certainly use all the prayers we can get. Hubby is beginning to look very down and may a little depressed. No even his running seems to perk him up any more. He's worked since he was 12. Working is what he does. He doesn't do idleness well...although he has certainly learned to cook very well!
Gramps


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Re: My Winter Project
Posted: Oct 31, 2011 4:59 PM   in response to: mychalkam in response to: mychalkam
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Yes, mychalkam I am keeping you and your husband in my prayers too.

Fact is, I lost my job the middle of June. I have taken early retirement and am working as a full time taxi driver now. I too struggle with not being able to find better work.

Does your area have a taxi service? I bet they are always looking for good reliable drivers. Probably will not be as much has unemployment, but it is work.

Do have him check with his doctor about the depression.
mychalkam


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Re: My Winter Project
Posted: Oct 31, 2011 6:51 PM   in response to: Gramps in response to: Gramps
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I'm sorry to hear that, Gramps, but glad you found some employment. My prayers are with you, too.
Hubby's unemployment benefits are up just after Christmas (since no more extensions have so far been added) so he'll be able to take a parttime job if he can find one after that. He has applied to every job under the sun even if he knew he wasn't qualified or was so over-qualified he didn't think they'd hire him. He's even had trouble finding enough volunteer work because so many places have shut down or laid off around here that everyone is out volunteering. I'd be surprised to learn he had not applied to the taxi services (he applied to the bus company, school bus company, and RideSource) but will pass on your idea to him just in case it didn't occur to him.
As to the depression, no health insurance, no money for doctors. We were turned down by private insurance (which we couldn't afford anyway) because of our health histories and turned down by the state insurance because he's still receiving unemployment even though Cobra ended. I'm sure they will say I make too much money, anyway (even though I don't make enough in a month to pay an insurance premium). And...he's stubborn and wouldn't admit he needed to talk about it anyway. (was there a "Stubborn Smurf"?) I'd say men are like that but I know plenty of stubborn women, too.
Gramps


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Re: My Winter Project
Posted: Nov 1, 2011 11:41 AM   in response to: mychalkam in response to: mychalkam
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mychalkam

Are there any community health clinics in your area that go on sliding fee? They may even have low cost generics or other program if he needs an antidepressant.
lonelyfordtruck...

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Re: My Winter Project
Posted: Dec 25, 2011 9:09 AM   in response to: mychalkam in response to: mychalkam
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Sorry to hear about your husbands job loss and the loss of your place. I know how tough it is as I was laid off from my last good paying job in March of 2010. Been working low paying temp jobs ever since its a little better than unemployment plus i'm working and gives me something to do. The challenge is trying to find a good paying perminet job while doing these temp jobs.
4Annie

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Posted: Dec 27, 2011 2:54 PM   in response to: mychalkam in response to: mychalkam
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I realize that 2 months have passed since you posted your message and pray that your husband has located a job. If not, the House of Reps finally extended a stop-gap in unemployment. Perhaps this will help you for a while.

Some suggestions - has he applied for training/employment services at the Unemployment Office? The staff, if it is similar to my state, has job coaches who can help with the slump. They may also be able to provide a list of resources for a mental health screening. Unfortunately, many of us are looking for an illusive job, so unemployment has become the "new normal" and Unemployment Office reps most likely have had many men walk through the doors with the "blues". Do you live near a community college? Many have job hunting seminars and work with local communities.

If you feel that your husband is depressed, he needs to see a professional. As a member of the largest profession providing mental health services, I recommend the National Association of Social Workers; the Oregon Unit's phone number is 503-452-8420, toll free -1-888-842-8420. The local Mental Health Association can also give you referrals. You can also contact your local hospital and ask for screening resources/sites. Both the MHA and hospital should be offering free screenings. If you take the hospital route, ask about Charity Care income limits (for future reference).

As for no health insurance, you can determine whether you as a couple qualify for your state's Medicaid program by calling your Social Security Office. (Many people are unaware that part of the funding for Medicaid comes from the Federal Government.) You may have to call until the phone is answered - many reps are being furloughed! - the best time to call is 7 a.m.; the toll free number is 1-800-772-1213.

If the screening indicates that your husband is clinically depressed, he will need to see a physician (preferably a psychiatrist; he/she is the most familiar with antidepressants and will follow his treatment to ensure that the correct dosage is prescribed). If medication is ordered, you should ask the doctor for the name of the pharmaceutical company that manufactures the medication and obtain the telephone number. Each pharmaceutical company has a program to provide free medications to patients who cannot afford them.

Most importantly, BELIEVE. Every Sunday he and everyone else who is unemployed, in pain, fearful, or in harms way has a congregation on the other coast praying. Remember the power of prayer and that God is with us always.

My best.

4Annie
mychalkam


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Re: My Winter Project
Posted: Dec 27, 2011 4:37 PM   in response to: 4Annie in response to: 4Annie
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4Annie,
Thank you for your prayers, kind words, and suggestions. Hubby worked for 2 weeks as a UPS helper, 7 hrs a day. He was exhausted but happy to have gotten at least a little work. Yes, he had been taking classes at the local community college until the government ran out of funding for them. They only offer certain ones so he took some office computer classes, resume writing course, and a sort of group therapy class for professional men who had lost their jobs.
He may have at least a chance at a job as a truck driver, co-driving with his cousin. Cousin has looked into it and already chosen a school. He is willing to back hubby to go to school. Cousin has a consulting business besides that he can handle by computer while on the road. Down fall is: he'd probably be gone three or more weeks in a row.
We're praying hard about this.
Shar M


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Re: My Winter Project
Posted: Dec 27, 2011 6:21 PM   in response to: mychalkam in response to: mychalkam
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Chalkie, my prayers are with you as well. Sometimes it's so hard to know God's will.
4Annie

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Re: My Winter Project
Posted: Dec 28, 2011 8:17 AM   in response to: mychalkam in response to: mychalkam
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Of course, you are welcome.

Taking off my professional cap ~ are you familiar with God Pause Daily Devotions? ( www.luthersem.edu ) . It is written by present and past seminarians, current and retired pastors, so it is spiritually enlightening and non-indoctrinating. I wish I had found it years ago; some of those trials may have been less lonely.

Today the focus is 1 Peter 4:12 - 19. This scripture has helped me and helped focus my prayers.
mychalkam


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Re: My Winter Project
Posted: Dec 28, 2011 4:41 PM   in response to: 4Annie in response to: 4Annie
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Thanks to you both, Shar and 4Annie,

Funny you should bring up those verses as they were favorites of my former pastor who always said he wished he'd given the name "Christian" to each of his children as their first name and just called them by what would then be their middle names.
I have taken much refuge in the BIBLE and God's love in the many years since I was first diagnosed with Lupus and the domino effect of illnesses that have followed, often telling God I enjoy his love but don't really want to be loved quite as much as Job. Facing first joblessness and now the possibility of homelessness is just one more bump in the road.
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Re: My Winter Project
Posted: Dec 28, 2011 11:39 PM   in response to: mychalkam in response to: mychalkam
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Oh, dear Chalkie, you have my prayers for your situation, as well. You are going through very difficult times.
Shar M


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Re: My Winter Project
Posted: Nov 1, 2011 8:54 AM   in response to: Gramps in response to: Gramps
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Gramps, I'm sorry to hear that. I will add you to my long, long list. I was finally able to offer a prayer of thanks for a cousin who had been out of work for two years as a draftsman. He was filling in as a car salesman but suddently got two offers in his area of expertise. I hope something in your field opens up for you.
Gramps


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Re: My Winter Project
Posted: Nov 1, 2011 11:49 AM   in response to: Shar M in response to: Shar M
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Thank you, Shar, for your words of encouragement. I am pleased to hear your cousin has gotten two offers now. It does seem like the construction industry may be picking up in some areas. The type of work I had been doing is still shrinking. Just this past week it was announced the governor may want to cancel all alcohol and drug contracts because of budget shortfalls. She has threatened to this before, but at the last moment found some money.

There might be a couple of possibilities for me in other areas, though.
Smiley1965


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Re: My Winter Project
Posted: Nov 1, 2011 9:51 AM   in response to: Gramps in response to: Gramps
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Sorry to hear Gramps; I did not know you had lost your job. Pray you find something fulfilling that will keep bread on the table.
Gramps


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Re: My Winter Project
Posted: Nov 1, 2011 11:51 AM   in response to: Smiley1965 in response to: Smiley1965
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Smiley,

It has been tight, but so far all bills are paid. Mortgage is paid. Utilities are paid. May be more difficult during Christmas break, but we will get through it.
mychalkam


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Re: My Winter Project
Posted: Nov 1, 2011 4:02 PM   in response to: Gramps in response to: Gramps
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Oh, Gramps, I am so glad you have been able to keep up with your mortgage, etc. Keeping up with having a home is the biggest challenge to unemploy-ment. Each month I think "Will this be the month we have not pay something?" We've been fortunate enough to only be one mortgage payment behind but....well, it will be hard to leave our little house. Hubby has an interview with UPS today. That would be only seasonal but it will be full time work if he gets it.
SereneMaxine


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Re: My Winter Project
Posted: Nov 1, 2011 5:15 PM   in response to: mychalkam in response to: mychalkam
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chalkie and gramps,

I am so sorry to hear that you both are suffering from the loss of jobs. I pray that something will come soon to aid you and your families.

SereneMaxine
mychalkam


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Re: My Winter Project
Posted: Nov 2, 2011 12:17 PM   in response to: SereneMaxine in response to: SereneMaxine
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thank you for your kindness, Maxine. God will be with us no matter what happens.
mychalkam


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Posted: Nov 16, 2011 2:42 PM   in response to: mychalkam in response to: mychalkam
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Hubby sort of got the job but he has to call in each day and see if UPS needs him. So far, they haven't needed him so he's no better off and is continuing to send in those applications and resumes. The problem is, no one wants to hire a man his age despite discrimination laws, So, we have a gap between now and when he can actually take a retirement.
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Re: My Winter Project
Posted: Nov 5, 2011 10:44 AM   in response to: Don the Norski in response to: Don the Norski
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This is so hard to take.

My prayers too are with you and all who are in similar straits.

Blessings.
Gramps


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Re: My Winter Project
Posted: Nov 15, 2011 12:14 PM   in response to: Gramps in response to: Gramps
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Spent time working on Conestoga wagon again. Partner had sanded nearly all the paint off the frame and had started rebuilding the box over past couple of weeks. Yesterday I was working on wheels, getting last of paint off. Was able to put linseed oil on front wheels. Back wheels still need work. I noticed back wheels have more spokes than front wheels, probably because they carried more of the load. Also, each wheel is somewhat different than the others. Seems like while radius was standard, wheels not so standard. Learning a lot from experience.
Grumpy


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Re: My Winter Project
Posted: Nov 15, 2011 7:22 PM   in response to: Gramps in response to: Gramps
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Chances are they were built one at a time from the available wood by different people. The differences in wheel right technique, wood irregularities, and locallities likely made them all different. Possible too that the wheel from one town would be different from one of another.
Gramps


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Re: My Winter Project
Posted: Nov 16, 2011 11:40 AM   in response to: Grumpy in response to: Grumpy
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All four wheels are oak, but I think you are right about different people building the different wheels and/or they came from different locations.
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Re: My Winter Project
Posted: Dec 19, 2011 11:21 PM   in response to: Gramps in response to: Gramps
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Just an update. Since we have had a mild winter so far, we have gotten the Conestoga Wagon nearly complete. Steve, my partner in crime, did most of the work. Last week I put linseed oil and stain on it to seal the wood. I think Steve wants to also put a polyurethane on it too. Still have not taken pictures of it. Am going up again mid January. Will take pictures then.
Grumpy


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Posted: Dec 20, 2011 7:25 AM   in response to: Gramps in response to: Gramps
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If it is REAL dry the wood may have soaked up the linseed oil and poly will stick..........but I doubt it. Polyureathane will likely not stick to the linseed oil. When you oiled it you likely followed traditional techniques but sealed the course of the build away from modern materials.

Be carefull with old linseed oil rags. Given enough oil, heat and bulk they will build up heat. Old boat yards used to have problems with them smoking and/or catching fire.

Edited by: Grumpy on Dec 20, 2011 9:26 AM
Gramps


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Posted: Dec 20, 2011 10:29 PM   in response to: Grumpy in response to: Grumpy
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Actually, I took them outside. Used four rags. Placed them on four steal posts. Found out that you do not want to take off your linseed oil stained jeans and put them on your wife's favorite sweater. Or leave the gloves you used in the car overnight. It has been ten days and the car still smells of linseed.
Gramps


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Re: My Winter Project
Posted: Jan 23, 2012 11:17 PM   in response to: Gramps in response to: Gramps
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Been meaning to put a picture or two of my winter project. It is in it's final phase. We are putting polyurethane on it to seal the wood:



Smiley1965


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Re: My Winter Project
Posted: Jan 24, 2012 6:16 AM   in response to: Gramps in response to: Gramps
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That looks great!
Smiley1965


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Re: My Winter Project
Posted: Jan 24, 2012 8:29 AM   in response to: Smiley1965 in response to: Smiley1965
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And are there horses there to pull it?
Shar M


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Posted: Jan 24, 2012 10:29 AM   in response to: Smiley1965 in response to: Smiley1965
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Beautiful, gramps. What a feeling of satisfaction that must give you.
Gramps


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Re: My Winter Project
Posted: Jan 26, 2012 12:28 AM   in response to: Smiley1965 in response to: Smiley1965
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Yes
Lois1964


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Re: My Winter Project
Posted: Jan 24, 2012 5:54 PM   in response to: Gramps in response to: Gramps
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What beautiful work, Gramps! Wish I could go for a ride:-)
Gramps


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Re: My Winter Project
Posted: Jan 26, 2012 12:32 AM   in response to: Lois1964 in response to: Lois1964
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Come out to Shoshone Adventure Camp, outside of Kellog ID and you can.