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Philipp240

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Search in Germany and the former german Territorys(like East Prussia )
Posted: Feb 25, 2009 2:58 PM
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Hello.My Name is Philipp Marquardt.I am a Researcher in Germany(live in lower Saxony near the Capital Hannover in the City Salzgitter).I have Access to several german Records(including Churchbook's from former german Territorys and civil Records).If anybody need's Help in finding Infos about his german Relatives,please ask me.
Here is my E-mailadress:imothep240@yahoo.de

While i have a Phoneflatrate(not for Cellphones) for the USA, i can call you.

Greetings from Germany

rwkruse

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Posted: May 19, 2009 3:47 AM   in response to: Philipp240 in response to: Philipp240
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My great-grandmother, Amelia Hellendrung, b.Oct. 10, 1870, West Prussia, d. Dec.6, 1928 Plymouth, CT.
On her death certificate in Connecticut, it lists her birthplace in West Prussia. It is difficult to read but it looks like Kentltof, or Kentlhof, or Hentltof, Hentlhof. I have never been able to find a town with that name on listings of towns from the German lost territories. Do you have any idea what it might be? Thanks.
Philipp240

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Posted: May 19, 2009 2:10 PM   in response to: rwkruse in response to: rwkruse
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Hello.I have just made a short Search on different Maps from Westprussia and i did not found a single Entry wich comes even close to your Spelling's.If you have any more different Spellings for me,just let me know.Can you send me Scan ore a Picture of her Deathrecord to my E-mailadress so that i can read the Entry by myself.I have Access to many Churchrecords from the former german Territory's.Almost every Record avalaible is in Berlin or in Leipzig(Saxony).Do you know when she went to the USA and about wich Port in Germany(Hamburg or Bremen).Please be informed that i am a professional Researcher.Just let me know if i can do something for you.

Greetings from Germany
rwkruse

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Posted: Sep 30, 2009 12:21 PM   in response to: Philipp240 in response to: Philipp240
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I haven't logged in to this site for several months and just replied via email to your post. I scanned a copy of the death certificate of Amelia Hellendrung and attached it to the email. I will send another email with a family tree that has further information. I have no idea which German port the Hellendrungs emigrated from. Thanks for you help.
SereneMaxine


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Posted: Jun 20, 2009 2:12 AM   in response to: Philipp240 in response to: Philipp240
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My grandmother was born 11 Oct. 1887 in Braunsfurt, in Pommern, Prussia. Her name was: Minnie Marie Rachut. I have no other information, but would appreciate if you could locate something.

Danke!

SereneMaxine
GaryT

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Posted: Jun 20, 2009 4:43 PM   in response to: SereneMaxine in response to: SereneMaxine
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Regarding your grandmother's first name: Minnie is short for Wilhemina, var. Wilhelmina. Searching without the correctly spelled first name can be difficult, if not impossile. The German immigrants frequently took their middle name for their commonly called name: for instance my gg grand father, whose correct name I found in the WNY church record was Joseph Johann Anton Kolbe. He went by John in the U.S., and probably in Germany as well. Most likely Anton was his confirmation name, as prior to his conversion to Lutheranism he was Roman Catholic( good Christians that they were, they kicked him out of the family).

Try family search.org . It's free and has a lot of info. The good thing about German records is that female seem to always have been identified by their maiden names as well as married last name.

Good luck,

Gary T.
LIFEGUARD1


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Posted: Oct 30, 2009 7:08 PM   in response to: GaryT in response to: GaryT
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Gary

In my family search I have also found that Wilhelmina could also just be Mina.
GaryT

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Posted: Nov 1, 2009 11:07 PM   in response to: LIFEGUARD1 in response to: LIFEGUARD1
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Yes, as I got into more church records in Brandenburg and elsewhere, I found at least two "Mina" names. There is no way to apply reason to naming. One of the richest familys in Texas named their only child, a daughter, Ima Hogg. I find that cruel. She grew up to be a very kind and gracious lady, a great philanthropist, involved in aiding many charities in the early 1900s.

But, as genealogists, we must consider that the highest likelihood is that the formal name, given at the Christening, is the long form, unless proven otherwise by church record or birth/baptism certificate. My guess is that more than 95% of those persons called by a "familiar" name, has a differant formal given name. The "normal" curve most likely gives us the best statistical picture. It's a wonder that human experience fits so closely into its curve!

Gary T, Kapitan zur see, U.S. Navy Reserve Retired
President, Bear Creek Genealogy Society and Library

Edited by: GaryT on Nov 1, 2009 11:08 PM
Philipp240

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Posted: Jun 24, 2009 1:40 AM   in response to: SereneMaxine in response to: SereneMaxine
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Hello.Minnie is a Name for its own.Braunsforth belonged to the District Saatzig.There are no Churchrecords for the District Saatzig.All are listed as missing since 1945.I could give you many Infos about Braunsforth itself,but it would take while to translate them.

Greetings from Germany

GaryT

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Posted: Jun 24, 2009 11:14 PM   in response to: Philipp240 in response to: Philipp240
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No doubt, Phillipp, you are correct about Minnie standing as it's own name, especially in these modern times. However, in my experience with that name among my 1840s ancestors from Brandenburg, and my 1900s ancestors, Minnie was always a short form of the name. Always. Since my references were the actual church records, I have no doubts about the formality which Germans of those earlier days applied to naming their children. There may have been exceptions, but I have seen none. Today's American standards of naming children are applied only to we staid few. Some of the new names are very original and amusing (poor, unfortunate children -some have the most difficult of names to spell).

I have found, as an example of contractions in my own family, several: Lena for Paulina, Bert for Bertha, and a translation- Adelaide for Adelheide, and Tillie for Matilda.

Best regards

Gary
Philipp240

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Posted: Jun 25, 2009 1:24 AM   in response to: GaryT in response to: GaryT
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Hello.You are right and i to.For Example:Lena is on one Side a Name for it's own and on the other Side a short Version of a longer Name.

Greetings
rsvolga

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Posted: Nov 7, 2013 2:55 AM   in response to: Philipp240 in response to: Philipp240
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I have always found Lena to be a nickname for either Magdalena or Carolina.
SereneMaxine


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Posted: Jun 25, 2009 12:08 AM   in response to: Philipp240 in response to: Philipp240
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Thank you, Philipp. I would appreciate any help you could provide. I have a lot of patience...no hurry. Past searches for the Braunsfurt information have not given any answers.

I did find her Geburts Urtunde. Her official name was Minna, Maria, Luisa Rachut. The handwriting is difficult to read. I will scan it and attach it to an email. Look for a message with Minna Rachut in the subject line.

SereneMaxine

Edited by: SereneMaxine on Jun 24, 2009 10:11 PM
SereneMaxine


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Posted: Jun 25, 2009 11:03 AM   in response to: SereneMaxine in response to: SereneMaxine
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Philipp! Thank you so much for your quick translation! You are very talented in your work and I thank you very much for going the extra mile!

SereneMaxine
MTskies

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Posted: Jul 15, 2009 11:40 AM   in response to: Philipp240 in response to: Philipp240
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My grandmother was born Martha Grimm to Hermann and Minna Grimm in Gerbstadt (in Preussen?) in 1888. The family emigrated to Wis. in 1896. I don't have any info before that. I could find Gerbstadt on Google.de but couldn't place it close to any larger city.
Philipp240

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Posted: Jul 16, 2009 9:43 AM   in response to: MTskies in response to: MTskies
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Hello.First allow me to correct your Spelling.It is Gerbstedt not Gerbstadt.It's a very small City about 36 Miles north-east from Leipzig in the County Saxony-Anhalt.LDS has only the Records from 1803-1874.I could ask the Church in Gerbstedt(have their Phonenumber and Adress) if they still Records after 1874.Getting a Copy of the actual Birthrecord from your Grandmother would be possible for me.I would have to find out where the civil Records of Gerbstedt are today.Due to a new Law wich came into Power this Year,all civil Records wich are older than 100 years have to be braught to local Archives.And so i asume that these Records are today in the Districtcity Mansfeld(only about 4,5 Miles west from Gerbstedt/can reach both Places easy by Train).Please be informed that i am a professional Researcher.Here is my E-mailadress:imothep240@yahoo.de
Please let me know if can do more for you.

Greetings from Germany

OnlyJo

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Posted: Jul 20, 2009 5:23 PM   in response to: Philipp240 in response to: Philipp240
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Hello,

If you are still willing to help on finding information on German relatives I have one I'd like to know more about.

My great grandmother-- Minnie Wardin -- came over to the United States when she was 2 1/2 years old. I have the passenger list for the ship her family was on and it states that they were from Glasgow or Glaszow (?that's what the writing looks like) Germany. The boat left from Hamburg & Hanoe and arrived in New York on April 24, 1893.

She was born November 23, 1890 --she always said her name was Minnie Anna but on the ship list she is listed has Minna (though she was always called Minnie). I know it was not her nickname but was her givien name. Her parents are Karl (or Carl) Wardin and mother maiden name is Augusta Pahl.

Can you find a birth record for her?

Thank you for helping.
BillieJo
Philipp240

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Posted: Jul 21, 2009 10:40 AM   in response to: OnlyJo in response to: OnlyJo
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Hello.I just looked on the Hamburg-passengerlist and it say's last Place of Reseidence "Glasow"(Bdgb)The 4 Letters "Bdgb" means Brandenburg.There had been two Places in the Province Brandenburg named "Glasow".One was in the District Soldin(is today Poland/south east from Stettin close to the Boarder to Pommerania).The other is in the District Teltow wich is south from Berlin.I would have to find out if Churchrecords for the Glasow(District Soldin) are available.It is much esier for the one south from Berlin.As you may know People at that Time had at least 3 Fornames if not even 4 or more.But it would take bit before i could search for you,while i have currently several Clients that i am working for.I would charge you only something if i found out that Church ore Civilrecords from your Ancestors are still available.

Greetings from Germany

OnlyJo

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Posted: Jul 21, 2009 5:31 PM   in response to: Philipp240 in response to: Philipp240
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Hello,

You don't have to search any further for me right now. Another family member is working on it too and I'll see what they turn up first. If they aren't sucessful and we decide to have to search further I will let you know.

Thank you.

BillieJo
Ladymagdalena


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Posted: Jul 21, 2009 9:03 PM   in response to: Philipp240 in response to: Philipp240
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Philippe - I will be emailing you privately. my father's family is from Bremen and I am in search of some information.

-Marianne
Philipp240

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Posted: Jul 23, 2009 12:05 PM   in response to: Ladymagdalena in response to: Ladymagdalena
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Thankyou.I am looking forwoard to it.
Note:My Mothers Name is also Marianne
Ladymagdalena


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Posted: Jul 23, 2009 7:30 PM   in response to: Philipp240 in response to: Philipp240
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I was named for my maternal Grandmother :)
Philipp240

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Posted: Aug 6, 2009 12:44 AM   in response to: Ladymagdalena in response to: Ladymagdalena
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Hello.I am still waiting for your E-mail

Philipp from Germany

thunder001


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Posted: Oct 12, 2009 11:16 PM   in response to: Philipp240 in response to: Philipp240
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Hello Philipp,

I am searching for earlier relatives from the 15th century on my mother's side, and for some relatives of them in the 1800's; also some relatives on my father's side from the 1700's and 1800's. I will send you email.

Note the first line of the email will be addressed from my screen name here, thunder001, so you know.

Thank you.
Sweetmusicman


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Posted: Oct 30, 2009 4:13 AM   in response to: Philipp240 in response to: Philipp240
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Hi.

My name is Christy(male) and live in Windhoek the capital of Namibia on the African continent. Namibia is a former Germany colony and thus you find that not only does Namibia represents allot of the German architecture but a great percentage of its people is of German descent like myself.

The father of my grandfather, from my father's side is a German who was married to local Herero women (black). That is the only thing I know. We don’t know whether my great grandfather had brothers or sisters he left behind in Germany when he came to Namibia-Africa. I was hoping you could search by this surname” Kröhne’ and maybe you find something on it.

God bless

Christy Kröhne

P.S. You can write me back to this e-mail; sweetmusicman2008@yahoo.com and cc the same information to ckrohne@mwtc.gov.na
C Koehler

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Posted: Apr 3, 2010 7:45 PM   in response to: Philipp240 in response to: Philipp240
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My grandmother Rosamunda Karoline Fritz was born, according to her bible, in Romhild, Mendhausen, Sachsen, Thuringia, Germany January 31st 1870. She immigrated to the US, Kansas in 1895 and married my grandfather in Marysville Kansas the same year. They did not know each other in Germany as far as we know.
I am writing to ask where I can find birth and family records in Germany. On their marriage license she gave her fathers name as Edward Fritz and her mother as Amelia Herder. A elderly cousin tells me she believes Amelia was actually her step-mother. Grandmother had one sibling we believe, Charlotte. My cousin also believes they were half-sisters.
Any help would be appreciated.
Regards,
Carol L. Koehler Cima
Portland, Oregon, USA
Philipp240

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Posted: Apr 21, 2010 10:17 AM   in response to: C Koehler in response to: C Koehler
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Hello.The little Churchcommunity of Mendhausen(in 1933 423 People lived in that Village) belongs today to the Community of Römhild.Have Pics from both Churches wich could send you via E-mail.I can ask the Pastor of Römhild if the Churchrecords are still in the Community and can be searched.Should they not be in Römhild itself,than i am sure that they are today in the Statechurcharchive of Eisenach(can reach it easy by Train).I can also already tell you that a Search of mine in these Records would be needed to get Results.Let me please explaine why:You have to wait at least a Year if not more before you can get a Answer from them,or they simply do not answer a Searchorder.You can asnwer me also via E-mail under :imothep240@yahoo.de

Greetings from Germany

hog1903

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Posted: Feb 9, 2012 4:29 PM   in response to: Philipp240 in response to: Philipp240
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Hello Philipp; I had family in East Prussia, my Grandparents Gottlieb Chmilewski married Caroline Konopka in Gross Schmuckwalde,Osterode,Ost Prussen on 26 November 1889. My Great Grandparents were Friedrich Konopka and Louise Galka from Theuernitz,Osterode,Ost Prussen. Gottlieb and Caroline Immigrated right after marrying to the USA. I have had trouble finding any record of their marriage. The civil record should have been recorded in Roschken for Gross Schmuckwalde and in Warweiden for Theuernitz. My Great Grandparents died one in 1910 and the other in 1914 ( I have copies of letters written to my Grandparents) and I know other family members were still there, Friedrich and Minna and a Christoph who wrote to here back then. Hit a deadend trying to find more info,can you help?

Richard Smith
hog1903@bellsouth.net
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Posted: Feb 10, 2012 2:45 PM   in response to: hog1903 in response to: hog1903
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Hog, I noted that Phillipp last posted almost two years ago. If you click on his name, you will find an email address which, hopefully, is current. You might try contacting him directly.
hog1903

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Posted: Feb 12, 2012 1:05 PM   in response to: Shar M in response to: Shar M
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Thank you, I'll try that.
Diane Surr

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Posted: Feb 20, 2012 2:30 PM   in response to: Philipp240 in response to: Philipp240
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Philipp Marquardt,

I don't think this is in your area but maybe you can lead me to a Lutheran Church for more information. I am looking for information regarding the Kleinschmidt family.
Father: August or Herman Kleinschmidt
Mother: Henrietta Drees or Droese or Dreis or Draise - Born April, 1830
she had six children, I know of three:
August born June 30, 1865
Maria born October 15, 1868
Herman born September 22, 1873
I think the area is Hinter Pommern and Craessin?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Diane Surr
Philipp240

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Posted: Jun 15, 2012 5:29 AM   in response to: Diane Surr in response to: Diane Surr
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Hello.If you can give me more detailed Infos,i can tell you if there are any Churchrecords left and if so where they are today
BonnieJean44

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Posted: Jun 8, 2012 1:32 PM   in response to: Philipp240 in response to: Philipp240
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Hi Phillip: I would appreciate any info you have about my G-G-Grandfather Ferdinand Bahr born 1816 and his wife Christne Bartz born 1822. I believe they are all from Prussia area. Please email me at bweaver44@msn.com Thank you.
Philipp240

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Posted: Jun 15, 2012 5:37 AM   in response to: BonnieJean44 in response to: BonnieJean44
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Hello.I wrote you a E-mail a few Minutes ago
ssandy


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Posted: Apr 12, 2013 12:25 AM   in response to: Philipp240 in response to: Philipp240
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Bumping up this thread in case it might help answer Cain's questions.
Philipp240

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Posted: Apr 15, 2013 10:30 AM   in response to: ssandy in response to: ssandy
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Thanks.I search not only in the former german Areas but in Germany as well(from Aachen to Berlin and from Hamburg to Munic).

Regards

amych

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Posted: Aug 8, 2013 10:37 PM   in response to: Philipp240 in response to: Philipp240
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Hello Philipp,

I am going to visit Germany in September to do some genealogy research. I want to make sure I know where to go when I get there. My great grandfather was born in Wurbis, Sachsen in 1879 and came to the US in 1882, with his parents, siblings, aunts, uncles and cousins. In total there were 27 people from this family together on the ship. I want to find marriage, birth and death records going back to earlier generations. They were Lutherans, and I believe they lived in the parish of Cunewalde. Where would I find the church records for this parish? Would they be in Cunewalde, or in some other central location? Also, would there be any civil records, and where would I find them? I've seen the town of Oppach mentioned. For example, my great grandfather's half sister was married in Oppach. Is that a civil district?

My great grandmother's parents were both from Germany, and met in the German community of Hermann, Missouri. Her father emigrated from Kleinsachsenheim, Württemberg in 1847, and her mother came from Hörste Halle, Westfalen in 1841. Again, I am wondering where to go for church and/or civil records for those two locations. They were also Lutherans.

Thanks so much for any information you can give me. Amy Harbor
Linda E R

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Posted: Aug 11, 2013 1:11 PM   in response to: amych in response to: amych
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Hi Amy Harbor,

I may have some information that may help you regarding finding information in German church records. Please contact me directly at: lindar1509@gmail.com

Linda
Philipp240

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Posted: Aug 12, 2013 4:32 PM   in response to: Linda E R in response to: Linda E R
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Hello Linda.I gave amy detailed Infos directly via E-mail.If you Linda,have Questions,you can ask me to of course.

Philipp